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Law Bob Esq.

I can offer only one consolation for your sense of loss. Never is a really, really, long time. Do you honestly believe that when your body ceases to function no part of you continues? Do you not find the idea that death is a complete ending to be absurd, on some deep, intuitive level?

On a side note, why is it when bad things happen to good people, we so often blame the biblical God, but not the biblical Adam?


i think death is sad, very very sad.



I hear your heart and I am sad with you. I don't know why fucked up things happen in this world and that's the truth. None of us knows, but in the depths of my soul, there resides a voice which says, "And yet, God. . ." Despite (or because of?) that voice, I am sad with you tonight and will pray.



How horrible, young life cut so tragically short. How her family must grieve. I am so sorry.

Father of all, we pray to you for Amanda, and for all those whom we care for but see no longer. Grant to them eternal rest. Let light perpetual shine upon them. May her soul and the souls of all the departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. †



Your are terrible at consolation. Just thought I might point that out. As for your questions, on a deep intuitive level I'm horribly afraid that this is all there is and all of my belief in God doesn't do anything to the contrary. Nobody knows what happens after death. So as far as I'm concerned, in this life, nobody will ever enjoy her again. I don't know what God I'm blaming. I don't know if I'm even blaming God. But I do know that, in no possible world, is the tragic loss of a young girl a good thing. Whether or not its Gods fault, who the hell knows. But it sure doesn't do much for positive evidence for God.


That is really sad.


I just stopped by, casual blogging really, and happened by your heart felt lamentations. I do wish I had words of wisdom, words of comfort. In 25 years of walking with the LORD, there have been many seasons in my life when I could have written your letter to God. Jeremiah and Solomon and David wrote similar pieces. Death is very sad for most. Even those who have hope in Christ usually find death tragic. When the death of my little nephew was eminate and I was praying at his bedside, I asked God if He would be so kind as to rock him for a while when he got "there". I prayed, foolishly perhaps,
like a child, no matter how beautiful heaven was, little nicky would be scared at first, and maybe if God would just rock him for a while...then in a moment of lucidness I realized how foolish that prayer was...how many people die in a given day, in a given moment. How many children??? And that's when God spoke to my heart,
"do not limit me to your understanding of time. I have all the time in the world, and I will rock nicky as long as he needs." If God is there, then He is God...
Jesus himself wept at the grave of his friend...
My blog is based on Ecclesiastes 3. To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven...a time to be born, and a time to die...
but LORD it just doesn't seem that this could have been the right time for Amanda to die does it? The same prophet who penned those words also wrote "Vanity of vanities...all is vanity. I guess to some of the hardest questions there are just no good answers.


I am deeply saddened by the unexplainable death of your friend. I am sorry that she will not greet you any longer. The pain of your words is palpable and I am sure that, what I can only describe as a feeling of lost-ness, is wholly appropriate...

grace and peace


I can't understand how a God deserving of the name would invest an intensely rational and analytical mind in me (or Adam or anyone) and then expect me to be appeased by appeals to the irrationality of the world. If god is God and he has caused these things to happen (not directly probably but in some greater cosmic sense yes the creator must ultimately be responsible for the creation) then surely there is a reason (a reasonable one) that is commensurable with the God of Love that we are told about in scripture and Sunday School. But if that is the case, if there is a reason, then why is it that none of the smartest people alive now or alive ever have been able to realize it?

Much like Greg, Adam, I hold onto the last vestiges of my faith because I (like I know you do) love the image of love and goodness that I see in the person of Jesus, but your questions are my questions. So in place of a pat on the back or a proverb or a parable I'll just give you myself as a fellow wandering wonderer and hope that someday we can both find answers to these the only questions worth asking.


Just wanted to say that there's nothing for me to say.


Leighton, it amazes me that as someone who is continually, willfully asserting my own (albeit quixotic) Christianity I tend to find myself commited more often to the assumptions and demands of people like yourself than I do to those of people who agree with me about God's existence. Maybe you have some insight into this phenomenon?

Law-Bob, I'm curious if you could give a more explicit account of your intuitive claim that the finality of death is absurd? I don't, by the way, intend this as a challenge; I just happen to be very interested just now concerning the possibility of life after death. I recognize that intuitions are often difficult to articulate, but I hoped you might shed some light on this particular quandry of mine.

Law Bob Esq.


As to why the finality of death seems intuitively absurd, One way to look at it is from a physical standpoint. No matter how far you go, or how close you look, or how high you count, there is always something farther, smaller, or higher yet to percieve. Or perhaps look at stories, real stories, no matter how long you tell them, there is always something related that happens next. (And if you read them to small children, they will demand to know.)

Another way to look at is to step back from the rabid obsession with individuality our culture has today. Is it so hard to perceive yourself less as an independent unit than as part of a continuing line of your family? There is most certainly a part of my father and mother in me.

Or perhaps you prefer the "butterfly effect." Are you nothing more than the inert matter that comprises you, or are "you" the engergy that moves that matter? I prefer to think that i am both, but in any case, any action, any process at all has an impact on the rest of creation that will go on, however imperceptibly, forever.


I suppose I can agree with most of your statements there, but I'm not sure that they constitute what I would call 'life after death.' For me, and perhaps this is indicative of my own egocentrism, for life after death to be a meaningful consolation for me, it must be conscious. I doubt that many thoughtful people would object to the claim that the effects of a person's life may reverberate in the evolving universe for a long time after her death.



I don't have a best guess in general. In this particular case, I think that for whatever reason, we've both determined that the relevant need is for empathy rather than for an explanation or immersion in a story (old or new) that will make sense of this loss. There will probably be a time for that, but as Legolas says, for now the grief is still too near. Chalk it up to similar personalities and/or background, I guess. I don't really know.

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